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James and Peggy
My new Ebook available now at Amazon Kindle. The Descendants of my fourth great grandparents James G Wright and Peggy Young.
Saturday, July 14, 2018
dna results for the hancock family tree
changes. changes. changes.
sometimes you do a lot of hard work researching a line and adding all the little details... but sometimes you dont have that one thing. that one little bit of info that makes everything you do fall apart.
i have to make a note here for changes to the family tree because dna results for the hancock family say now that the father of my ancestor benjamin hancock may not be john who married jane holt. some of you out there may be working on this line and need this tip. dna does not lie and it looks like the descendants of ben are not the same as the descendants of john and jane holt hancock. the hancock dna results page says they are in two different groups.
link below. however, after a closer look i find these results inconclusive so they may be proven wrong later. in short, further testing is needed.
hope this helps anyone out there who may need to make the necessary changes. will be having to do some major surgery on my trees in the coming weeks and sad to say good bye to the lines that will be lost in the process, but hey we are still cousins somehow, so i will not be deleting the folks in those lines just making changes to the pedigree view.
best of luck to you in your hunt and keep climbing those trees
and seeking those answers.
peace.
hancock ydna results page at ftdna...
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hancock?iframe=yresults
sometimes you do a lot of hard work researching a line and adding all the little details... but sometimes you dont have that one thing. that one little bit of info that makes everything you do fall apart.
i have to make a note here for changes to the family tree because dna results for the hancock family say now that the father of my ancestor benjamin hancock may not be john who married jane holt. some of you out there may be working on this line and need this tip. dna does not lie and it looks like the descendants of ben are not the same as the descendants of john and jane holt hancock. the hancock dna results page says they are in two different groups.
link below. however, after a closer look i find these results inconclusive so they may be proven wrong later. in short, further testing is needed.
hope this helps anyone out there who may need to make the necessary changes. will be having to do some major surgery on my trees in the coming weeks and sad to say good bye to the lines that will be lost in the process, but hey we are still cousins somehow, so i will not be deleting the folks in those lines just making changes to the pedigree view.
best of luck to you in your hunt and keep climbing those trees
and seeking those answers.
peace.
hancock ydna results page at ftdna...
https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Hancock?iframe=yresults
Saturday, May 26, 2018
Friday, April 13, 2018
EDWARD III, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Edward III of England is your 19th great grandfather.
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Burrell H Hancock
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock
his mother → Brice Edwards
her father → Olive Edwards
his mother → Susannah Martin
her mother → John Chiles
her father → Mary Chiles
his mother → Colonel John Page
her father → Isabel Page
his mother → Sir George Wyatt, of Boxley Abbey
her father → Sir Thomas "The Younger" Wyatt, MP
his father → Elizabeth Wyatt, Lady
his mother → Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham
her father → Margaret de Neville, Baroness Cobham
his mother → Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny
her father → Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
his mother → John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
her father → Edward III of England
his father
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Burrell H Hancock
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock
his mother → Brice Edwards
her father → Olive Edwards
his mother → Susannah Martin
her mother → John Chiles
her father → Mary Chiles
his mother → Colonel John Page
her father → Isabel Page
his mother → Sir George Wyatt, of Boxley Abbey
her father → Sir Thomas "The Younger" Wyatt, MP
his father → Elizabeth Wyatt, Lady
his mother → Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham
her father → Margaret de Neville, Baroness Cobham
his mother → Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny
her father → Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
his mother → John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
her father → Edward III of England
his father
Friday, April 6, 2018
SIR HUGH COURTENAY, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Sir Hugh Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon is your 18th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Tressie (King) Nichols
his mother → Michael O. King
her father → Margaret (Wright) King
his mother → Margaret (Young) Wright
her mother → Capt. Thomas Cadet Young
her father → Michael Cadet Young
his father → Francis Cadet
his father → William Young
his father → Thomas Young
his father → Robert Young, Sir
his father → Joan Wadham
his mother → Joan Wadham
her mother → Lady Jane Tregarthen
her mother → Lady Elizabeth Trethurffe
her mother → Sir Hugh de Courtenay, of Boconnoc
her father → Hugh Courtenay, MP
his father → Sir Edward de Courtenay, of Godlington
his father → Sir Hugh Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon
his father
You
→ Pop
your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Tressie (King) Nichols
his mother → Michael O. King
her father → Margaret (Wright) King
his mother → Margaret (Young) Wright
her mother → Capt. Thomas Cadet Young
her father → Michael Cadet Young
his father → Francis Cadet
his father → William Young
his father → Thomas Young
his father → Robert Young, Sir
his father → Joan Wadham
his mother → Joan Wadham
her mother → Lady Jane Tregarthen
her mother → Lady Elizabeth Trethurffe
her mother → Sir Hugh de Courtenay, of Boconnoc
her father → Hugh Courtenay, MP
his father → Sir Edward de Courtenay, of Godlington
his father → Sir Hugh Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon
his father
Friday, March 30, 2018
SIR ROGER DE MORTIMER, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Roger de Mortimer, 2nd Earl of March is your 18th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Tressie (King) Nichols
his mother → Michael O. King
her father → Margaret (Wright) King
his mother → Reverend James Grant Wright, Sr.
her father → Mary Whitledge Wright
his mother → William Grant, of Crichie
her father → Elizabeth Grant
his mother → William Leslie, X. Baron of Balquhain
her father → William Leslie, Ninth Baron of Balquhain
his father → Elizabeth Leslie of Ardoyne
his mother → Patrick Leslie, of Ardoyne, Provost of Aberdeen
her father → Patrick Leslie of Logydurno
his father → Sir William Leslie, 4th Baron of Balquhain
his father → Isabel Mortimer
his mother → Bernard Mortimer, of Craigievar
her father → Sir Edmund Mortimer
his father → Edmund de Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March
his father → Roger de Mortimer, 2nd Earl of March
his father
You
→ Pop
your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Tressie (King) Nichols
his mother → Michael O. King
her father → Margaret (Wright) King
his mother → Reverend James Grant Wright, Sr.
her father → Mary Whitledge Wright
his mother → William Grant, of Crichie
her father → Elizabeth Grant
his mother → William Leslie, X. Baron of Balquhain
her father → William Leslie, Ninth Baron of Balquhain
his father → Elizabeth Leslie of Ardoyne
his mother → Patrick Leslie, of Ardoyne, Provost of Aberdeen
her father → Patrick Leslie of Logydurno
his father → Sir William Leslie, 4th Baron of Balquhain
his father → Isabel Mortimer
his mother → Bernard Mortimer, of Craigievar
her father → Sir Edmund Mortimer
his father → Edmund de Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March
his father → Roger de Mortimer, 2nd Earl of March
his father
Friday, March 9, 2018
SIR THOMAS HOLLAND, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent is your 19th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING)
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett)
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY
his father → Margaret Bartlett
his mother → Margaret Brent
her mother → Anne Peshall
her mother → Anne Catesby
her mother → Sir Robert Throckmorton, of Coughton Court
her father → Katherine Throckmorton
his mother → Elizabeth Vaux
her mother → Alice Fitzhugh
her mother → Alice Montagu (Montacute), 5th Countess of Salisbury
her mother → Lady Eleanor (the Younger) de Holland, Countess of Salisbury
her mother → Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent
her father → Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent
his father
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING)
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett)
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY
his father → Margaret Bartlett
his mother → Margaret Brent
her mother → Anne Peshall
her mother → Anne Catesby
her mother → Sir Robert Throckmorton, of Coughton Court
her father → Katherine Throckmorton
his mother → Elizabeth Vaux
her mother → Alice Fitzhugh
her mother → Alice Montagu (Montacute), 5th Countess of Salisbury
her mother → Lady Eleanor (the Younger) de Holland, Countess of Salisbury
her mother → Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent
her father → Thomas Holland, 1st Earl of Kent
his father
Friday, March 2, 2018
HENRY CAREY, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Henry Carey, 1st Baron Hunsdon is your 12th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Daniel JOSHUA COLLINS
her father → Catherine Poff Stump Collins
his mother → Sarah Wilson
her mother → Sarah Wilson
her mother → Margaret Lykins
her mother → Joseph William Howe
her father → Lt General (twin) James Howe
his father → Lt.-Gen. Emanuel Scrope Howe
his father → Annabella Howe
his mother → Emanuel Scrope, 1st Earl of Sunderland
her father → Philadelphia Carey, Baroness Scrope of Bolton
his mother → Henry Carey, 1st Baron Hunsdon
her father
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Daniel JOSHUA COLLINS
her father → Catherine Poff Stump Collins
his mother → Sarah Wilson
her mother → Sarah Wilson
her mother → Margaret Lykins
her mother → Joseph William Howe
her father → Lt General (twin) James Howe
his father → Lt.-Gen. Emanuel Scrope Howe
his father → Annabella Howe
his mother → Emanuel Scrope, 1st Earl of Sunderland
her father → Philadelphia Carey, Baroness Scrope of Bolton
his mother → Henry Carey, 1st Baron Hunsdon
her father
Friday, February 23, 2018
RALPH DE STAFFORD, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Ralph de Stafford is your 19th great grandfather.
You
→ Mom
your mother → EULA V HANCOCK
her mother → Vennie Bourne
her mother → Amelia Millie Ann Bourne
her mother → William K Vaughan
her father → Elizabeth Smith Vaughn
his mother → Anne Glenn
her mother → Charles Venable
her father → Abraham Venable
his father → Abraham Venable
his father → Thomas Venables
his father → Frances Venables
his mother → Sir Hugh Cholmondelay, the Younger
her father → Sir Hugh Cholmondeley
his father → Sir Richard Cholmondeley
his father → Eleanor / Elinor Cholmondeley
his mother → Anne Tuchet de Audley
her mother → Margaret Tuchet
her mother → William de Ros, Lord of Hamlake, Treasurer of England
her father → Beatrice de Stafford
his mother → Ralph de Stafford
her father
You
→ Mom
your mother → EULA V HANCOCK
her mother → Vennie Bourne
her mother → Amelia Millie Ann Bourne
her mother → William K Vaughan
her father → Elizabeth Smith Vaughn
his mother → Anne Glenn
her mother → Charles Venable
her father → Abraham Venable
his father → Abraham Venable
his father → Thomas Venables
his father → Frances Venables
his mother → Sir Hugh Cholmondelay, the Younger
her father → Sir Hugh Cholmondeley
his father → Sir Richard Cholmondeley
his father → Eleanor / Elinor Cholmondeley
his mother → Anne Tuchet de Audley
her mother → Margaret Tuchet
her mother → William de Ros, Lord of Hamlake, Treasurer of England
her father → Beatrice de Stafford
his mother → Ralph de Stafford
her father
Friday, February 16, 2018
THOMAS DE BEAUCHAMP, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Thomas de Beauchamp, 11th Earl of Warwick is your 17th great grandfather.
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Burrell H Hancock
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock
his mother → Brice Edwards
her father → Olive Edwards
his mother → Capt Joseph Martin, Sr., of Albemarle
her father → William Martin, merchant of Bristol
his father → Capt. John Martin, of Pale Park
his father → Thomas Martin, of Parkpole
his father → Robert Martin, of Athelhampton
his father → Lady Mary Martin
his mother → James Daubeney
her father → Alice Hill
his mother → John Stourton, of Preston, MP
her father → Jane Basset, of Sapcote
his mother → Joan Beauchamp, Lady
her mother → Thomas de Beauchamp, 11th Earl of Warwick
her father
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Burrell H Hancock
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock
his mother → Brice Edwards
her father → Olive Edwards
his mother → Capt Joseph Martin, Sr., of Albemarle
her father → William Martin, merchant of Bristol
his father → Capt. John Martin, of Pale Park
his father → Thomas Martin, of Parkpole
his father → Robert Martin, of Athelhampton
his father → Lady Mary Martin
his mother → James Daubeney
her father → Alice Hill
his mother → John Stourton, of Preston, MP
her father → Jane Basset, of Sapcote
his mother → Joan Beauchamp, Lady
her mother → Thomas de Beauchamp, 11th Earl of Warwick
her father
Friday, February 9, 2018
HENRY OF LANCASTER, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Henry of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Lancaster is your 19th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING)
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett)
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY
his father → Margaret Bartlett
his mother → Margaret Brent
her mother → Sir John Peshall, 1st Baronet
her father → Joanna Fettiplace
his mother → Edmund Fettiplace
her father → Sir John Fettiplace, Knight
his father → Richard Fettiplace, of Besselsleigh
his father → John Fettiplace, of Childrey
his father → Dª. Beatrice de Pinto de Pinto
his mother → Filipa de Lencastre, rainha consorte de Portugal
her mother → Blanche of Lancaster, Duchess of Lancaster
her mother → Henry of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Lancaster
her father
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING)
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett)
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY
his father → Margaret Bartlett
his mother → Margaret Brent
her mother → Sir John Peshall, 1st Baronet
her father → Joanna Fettiplace
his mother → Edmund Fettiplace
her father → Sir John Fettiplace, Knight
his father → Richard Fettiplace, of Besselsleigh
his father → John Fettiplace, of Childrey
his father → Dª. Beatrice de Pinto de Pinto
his mother → Filipa de Lencastre, rainha consorte de Portugal
her mother → Blanche of Lancaster, Duchess of Lancaster
her mother → Henry of Lancaster, 1st Duke of Lancaster
her father
Monday, February 5, 2018
Friday, February 2, 2018
WILLIAM DE BOHUN, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
William de Bohun, 1st Earl of Northampton is your 19th great grandfather.
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Ida E Hancock
his mother → Robert Lee Linville
her father → PVT. Moses Linville, CSA
his father → Moses Linville, Sr.
his father → Hannah Linville
his mother → Elizabeth Margaret Morgan
her mother → John Jarman
her father → Arthur Jarman
his father → John Jarman
his father → Thomas Jarman
his father → Gwen Jarmen
his mother → Sir Rhys Gruffydd, MP
her father → Jane Stradling
his mother → Sir Thomas Edward Stradling, Esq
her father → Sir Henry Stradling, Kt.
his father → Lady Joan Beaufort
his mother → Lady Alice FitzAlan, Baroness Cherleton
her mother → Elizabeth de Bohun, Countess of Arundel
her mother → William de Bohun, 1st Earl of Northampton
her father
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Ida E Hancock
his mother → Robert Lee Linville
her father → PVT. Moses Linville, CSA
his father → Moses Linville, Sr.
his father → Hannah Linville
his mother → Elizabeth Margaret Morgan
her mother → John Jarman
her father → Arthur Jarman
his father → John Jarman
his father → Thomas Jarman
his father → Gwen Jarmen
his mother → Sir Rhys Gruffydd, MP
her father → Jane Stradling
his mother → Sir Thomas Edward Stradling, Esq
her father → Sir Henry Stradling, Kt.
his father → Lady Joan Beaufort
his mother → Lady Alice FitzAlan, Baroness Cherleton
her mother → Elizabeth de Bohun, Countess of Arundel
her mother → William de Bohun, 1st Earl of Northampton
her father
Friday, January 26, 2018
JOHN OF GAUNT, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster is your 18th great grandfather.
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Burrell H Hancock
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock
his mother → Brice Edwards
her father → Olive Edwards
his mother → Susannah Martin
her mother → John Chiles
her father → Mary Chiles
his mother → Colonel John Page
her father → Isabel Page
his mother → Sir George Wyatt, of Boxley Abbey
her father → Sir Thomas "The Younger" Wyatt, MP
his father → Elizabeth Wyatt, Lady
his mother → Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham
her father → Margaret de Neville, Baroness Cobham
his mother → Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny
her father → Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
his mother → John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
her father
You
→ Mom
your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran
her father → Burrell H Hancock
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock
his mother → Brice Edwards
her father → Olive Edwards
his mother → Susannah Martin
her mother → John Chiles
her father → Mary Chiles
his mother → Colonel John Page
her father → Isabel Page
his mother → Sir George Wyatt, of Boxley Abbey
her father → Sir Thomas "The Younger" Wyatt, MP
his father → Elizabeth Wyatt, Lady
his mother → Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham
her father → Margaret de Neville, Baroness Cobham
his mother → Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny
her father → Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland
his mother → John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster
her father
Friday, January 19, 2018
SIR NELE LORING, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
Sir Nele Loring is your 18th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → James "Jim" Ira Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Ezekiel Hankin Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → John Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Judith Nichols
his mother → Richard Hatcher
her father → William Hatcher, Jr.
his father → Sarah Anne Hatcher
his mother → Capt. John Burton, of Longfield
her father → Katherine Burton
his mother → Mabel Fairfax
her mother → Sir Henry Curwen, of Workington, MP
her father → Agnes Curwen
his mother → Elizabeth Gascoigne
her mother → Isabel Pennington
her mother → John de Broughton, IV
her father → Mary Seymour
his mother → Margaret Peyvre
her mother → Sir Nele Loring
her father
You
→ Pop
your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → James "Jim" Ira Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Ezekiel Hankin Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → John Nichols, R-CTS1751
his father → Judith Nichols
his mother → Richard Hatcher
her father → William Hatcher, Jr.
his father → Sarah Anne Hatcher
his mother → Capt. John Burton, of Longfield
her father → Katherine Burton
his mother → Mabel Fairfax
her mother → Sir Henry Curwen, of Workington, MP
her father → Agnes Curwen
his mother → Elizabeth Gascoigne
her mother → Isabel Pennington
her mother → John de Broughton, IV
her father → Mary Seymour
his mother → Margaret Peyvre
her mother → Sir Nele Loring
her father
Thursday, January 18, 2018
Does your tree make sense?
Keep in mind that not every bit of information you find on your relative or ancestor is going to be true. Some people copy others without checking their facts and some people will copy you too. For this reason alone, due diligence is a must have in any tree. If you are not a thousand percent certain that a relationship is right say so.
If your fifth great grandfather was born in 1776 and his mother was born in 1770 you may have gotten some bad intel. And if his father died two years before he was born, he may not be the father, Luke.
If his father was born in another state and never moved or if he was in a different county his whole life, he may not be the father. And if he is not the father, was his wife really the mother. Circumstantial evidence is not admissible in court and should not be writ in stone on your tree either.
Just because five of your cousins on Ancestry listed Ben as the father of Luke or Luke as the father of Rey does not mean it is so. Do your detective work and confirm beyond a reasonable doubt that the tree is accurate or at least note any facts that are not confirmed. Keep in mind that others will not do the leg work and will copy you and your sixth great grandson may want to do the family tree for his grandchildren and may not be able to find the proof as easily as you can now.
Be the late night family detective your future generations need and leave no stones unturned. Think I have covered all the bases on this subject but let me finish with one more example.
Everyone on ancestry had assumed that my elder John Nichols was the son of Isaac and Rhoda Bond Nichols because they were in the same county he was born in, but it turned out with a lot of homework that Isaac and Rhoda had a son the same year that John was born and also, they did not have any sons named John at all.
Also DNA evidence proved that John and Isaac were two different bloodlines as they had different Y DNA haplogroups and so could not be related at all. John was actually a member of another line of Nichols who lived in Bedford County and was related to John Nichols who moved to Bedford from Maryland. He and John had the same Y DNA and so were related as sons inherit their Y DNA from their fathers so therefore Isaac was not related to John but John was.
Turns out that John's son, Arch had a son named John, of course his brother John did too, but not in the same time frame or location. But that is another story. While one researcher had taken an educated guess and gotten the bloodline wrong, others had copied their info and gotten their lines wrong too. And after having spent months and months researching Isaac's family, DNA proved that Isaac was NOT the father, as Maury would say.
On a side note, Isaac is actually related to me through a relatives marriage to my Hatcher line, so the research I ended up doing was not in vain at all, and I found some pretty cool relatives of Rhoda Bond in the process.
Rhoda had a relative who was scalped in a battle with Native Americans during Black Hawk's War, and was one of the bodies found the next day by Abraham Lincoln's unit. His name was James Bond, and I found him while researching Rhoda's tree. Just having a James Bond in the tree makes it worth the work.
Back to topic. Do your homework. Don't copy. And if you can use DNA to confirm where possible.
By the way, if you read my earlier posts about Isaac and Rhoda's families and them being ancestors, I was wrong about them. #update.
Keep climbing trees and breaking through walls. The fruit is worth the labor.
Peace.
If your fifth great grandfather was born in 1776 and his mother was born in 1770 you may have gotten some bad intel. And if his father died two years before he was born, he may not be the father, Luke.
If his father was born in another state and never moved or if he was in a different county his whole life, he may not be the father. And if he is not the father, was his wife really the mother. Circumstantial evidence is not admissible in court and should not be writ in stone on your tree either.
Just because five of your cousins on Ancestry listed Ben as the father of Luke or Luke as the father of Rey does not mean it is so. Do your detective work and confirm beyond a reasonable doubt that the tree is accurate or at least note any facts that are not confirmed. Keep in mind that others will not do the leg work and will copy you and your sixth great grandson may want to do the family tree for his grandchildren and may not be able to find the proof as easily as you can now.
Be the late night family detective your future generations need and leave no stones unturned. Think I have covered all the bases on this subject but let me finish with one more example.
Everyone on ancestry had assumed that my elder John Nichols was the son of Isaac and Rhoda Bond Nichols because they were in the same county he was born in, but it turned out with a lot of homework that Isaac and Rhoda had a son the same year that John was born and also, they did not have any sons named John at all.
Also DNA evidence proved that John and Isaac were two different bloodlines as they had different Y DNA haplogroups and so could not be related at all. John was actually a member of another line of Nichols who lived in Bedford County and was related to John Nichols who moved to Bedford from Maryland. He and John had the same Y DNA and so were related as sons inherit their Y DNA from their fathers so therefore Isaac was not related to John but John was.
Turns out that John's son, Arch had a son named John, of course his brother John did too, but not in the same time frame or location. But that is another story. While one researcher had taken an educated guess and gotten the bloodline wrong, others had copied their info and gotten their lines wrong too. And after having spent months and months researching Isaac's family, DNA proved that Isaac was NOT the father, as Maury would say.
On a side note, Isaac is actually related to me through a relatives marriage to my Hatcher line, so the research I ended up doing was not in vain at all, and I found some pretty cool relatives of Rhoda Bond in the process.
Rhoda had a relative who was scalped in a battle with Native Americans during Black Hawk's War, and was one of the bodies found the next day by Abraham Lincoln's unit. His name was James Bond, and I found him while researching Rhoda's tree. Just having a James Bond in the tree makes it worth the work.
Back to topic. Do your homework. Don't copy. And if you can use DNA to confirm where possible.
By the way, if you read my earlier posts about Isaac and Rhoda's families and them being ancestors, I was wrong about them. #update.
Keep climbing trees and breaking through walls. The fruit is worth the labor.
Peace.
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Friday, January 12, 2018
JOHN DE GREY, KNIGHT OF THE GARTER
John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield is your 19th great grandfather.
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING)
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett)
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY
his father → Margaret Bartlett
his mother → Margaret Brent
her mother → Sir John Peshall, 1st Baronet
her father → Thomas Pershall (Pearsall) (Persall)
his father → Richard Pearshall
his father → Catherine Harcourt
his mother → Thomas Harcourt, Esq.
her father → John Harcourt, Esq, of Ranton
his father → Sir Thomas Harcourt, Knight
his father → Maud de Grey
his mother → John de Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
her father → John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
his father
You
→ Pop
your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins)
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING)
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett)
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY
his father → Margaret Bartlett
his mother → Margaret Brent
her mother → Sir John Peshall, 1st Baronet
her father → Thomas Pershall (Pearsall) (Persall)
his father → Richard Pearshall
his father → Catherine Harcourt
his mother → Thomas Harcourt, Esq.
her father → John Harcourt, Esq, of Ranton
his father → Sir Thomas Harcourt, Knight
his father → Maud de Grey
his mother → John de Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
her father → John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
his father
Friday, January 5, 2018
KNIGHTS OF THE GARTER
The Order of the Garter is the most senior and the oldest British Order of Chivalry and was founded by Edward III in 1348.
The Most Noble Order of the Garter is an order of chivalry founded by Edward III in 1348 and regarded as the most prestigious British order of chivalry (though in precedence inferior to the military Victoria Cross and George Cross) in England and the United Kingdom. It is dedicated to the image and arms of Saint George, England's patron saint.
https://www.geni.com/projects/Knights-of-the-Garter/919
following are some of the Knights of the Garter that are my ancestors. Stay tuned true believers.....
Tuesday, January 2, 2018
The many lives of Moses Linville
the many lives of moses linville
or the lives of the many moses linvilles...
moses linville was not immortal exactly although he had many cousins with the same name...
william moses linville was the son of david jr. and nancy ragsdale... he married elizabeth nelson and was born about 1827 in forsyth county nc.... he was the father of william alexander linville, columbus frank linville, and newton linville, among others.
william was not the husband of elizabeth hester...
elizabeth hester married moses linville b. 1829.
my third great grandfather moses linville, b.1813, married henrietta white. he was the father of robert lee linville and berry linville. and he was not the husband of bethania hetty cook... he was however the son of john and sarah busby linville and the grandson of moses linville and an unknown wife.... was he the moses linville who enlisted in 1861 in surry county nc? maybe....
moses son of richard was born about 1760 in nc and married elizabeth johnson... he moved his family west to tennessee and died in sparta, white county. he was the father of pleasant c linville and william m linville among others...
moses linville b.1829 in stokes county nc married elizabeth hester and was the father of william stephen linville 1852 and newton moses linville 1867 among others... william's death certificate lists his parents moses linville and elizabeth hester... this is not the moses linville born in 1700s. this moses died in forsyth county nc 1913.... who were his parents??? benjamin fewell linville and mary holbrook or halbrook....
my fifth great grand moses linville 1752-1826 was the son of thomas and hannah. wife unknown but was not elizabeth hester. he was the father of john and brace and thomas and moses 1802 among others.... he died before the civil war but may have served in the revolution or the war of 1812...
his son moses 1802 married bethania cook aka hetty. he was my fifth great uncle. he was the father of nephe, peter and franklin among others. their daughter bethania married an owens... he was probably the moses who enlisted in the war in surry county. there may have been more than one... he died after 1880 census...
newton moses linville 1867 1943 of forsyth county nc, was the son of moses linville and elizabeth hester. he married faithie ellen frazier.... he was father of
Faitha Elizabeth Linville
Samuel Oscar Linville
Minnie Jane Long
William Newton Linville
Elvie Alice Crim
Samuel Oscar Linville
Minnie Jane Long
William Newton Linville
Elvie Alice Crim
1791 moses linville married catherine crim. he was the son of david sr. and dorothy fair linville. he was born in nc but moved to indiana. he was the father of sarah c brown and moses jr. 1837.
1837 was born in indiana and apparently never married he was drafted into the union army in the war and was still living with his mother in 1880 before his death in 97. it is unlikely that he ever went to nc so you can ignore the nc based hints for him...
links
http://www.linvillefamily.us/LFA-o/g0/p1.htm#i10
http://www.linvillefamily.us/LFA-o/g0/p63.htm#i1867
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Linville-412
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Linville-406
http://www.linvillefamily.us/LFA-o/g1/p1822.htm#i54654
http://www.linvillefamily.us/LFA-o/g0/p61.htm#i1805
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