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Friday, January 26, 2018


John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster is your 18th great grandfather.
→ Mom 

your mother → Pvt. Garnett Hancock, WWII Veteran 
her father → Burrell H Hancock 
his father → Samuel Austin Hancock 
his father → Elizabeth Edwards Hancock 
his mother → Brice Edwards 
her father → Olive Edwards 
his mother → Susannah Martin 
her mother → John Chiles 
her father → Mary Chiles 
his mother → Colonel John Page 
her father → Isabel Page 
his mother → Sir George Wyatt, of Boxley Abbey 
her father → Sir Thomas "The Younger" Wyatt, MP 
his father → Elizabeth Wyatt, Lady 
his mother → Thomas Brooke, 8th Lord Cobham 
her father → Margaret de Neville, Baroness Cobham 
his mother → Edward Neville, 3rd Baron of Bergavenny 
her father → Joan Beaufort, Countess of Westmorland 
his mother → John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster 
her father

Friday, January 19, 2018


Sir Nele Loring is your 18th great grandfather.
→ Pop 

your father → Rufus Samuel Nichols, R-CTS1751 
his father → James "Jim" Ira Nichols, R-CTS1751 
his father → Ezekiel Hankin Nichols, R-CTS1751 
his father → John Nichols, R-CTS1751 
his father → Judith Nichols 
his mother → Richard Hatcher 
her father → William Hatcher, Jr. 
his father → Sarah Anne Hatcher 
his mother → Capt. John Burton, of Longfield 
her father → Katherine Burton 
his mother → Mabel Fairfax 
her mother → Sir Henry Curwen, of Workington, MP 
her father → Agnes Curwen 
his mother → Elizabeth Gascoigne 
her mother → Isabel Pennington 
her mother → John de Broughton, IV 
her father → Mary Seymour 
his mother → Margaret Peyvre 
her mother → Sir Nele Loring 
her father

Thursday, January 18, 2018

Does your tree make sense?

Keep in mind that not every bit of information you find on your relative or ancestor is going to be true. Some people copy others without checking their facts and some people will copy you too. For this reason alone, due diligence is a must have in any tree. If you are not a thousand percent certain that a relationship is right say so.
If your fifth great grandfather was born in 1776 and his mother was born in 1770 you may have gotten some bad intel. And if his father died two years before he was born, he may not be the father, Luke.
If his father was born in another state and never moved or if he was in a different county his whole life, he may not be the father. And if he is not the father, was his wife really the mother. Circumstantial evidence is not admissible in court and should not be writ in stone on your tree either.
Just because five of your cousins on Ancestry listed Ben as the father of Luke or Luke as the father of Rey does not mean it is so. Do your detective work and confirm beyond a reasonable doubt that the tree is accurate or at least note any facts that are not confirmed. Keep in mind that others will not do the leg work and will copy you and your sixth great grandson may want to do the family tree for his grandchildren and may not be able to find the proof as easily as you can now.
Be the late night family detective your future generations need and leave no stones unturned. Think I have covered all the bases on this subject but let me finish with one more example.
Everyone on ancestry had assumed that my elder John Nichols was the son of Isaac and Rhoda Bond Nichols because they were in the same county he was born in, but it turned out with a lot of homework that Isaac and Rhoda had a son the same year that John was born and also, they did not have any sons named John at all.
Also DNA evidence proved that John and Isaac were two different bloodlines as they had different Y DNA haplogroups and so could not be related at all. John was actually a member of another line of Nichols who lived in Bedford County and was related to John Nichols who moved to Bedford from Maryland. He and John had the same Y DNA and so were related as sons inherit their Y DNA from their fathers so therefore Isaac was not related to John but John was.
Turns out that John's son, Arch had a son named John, of course his brother John did too, but not in the same time frame or location. But that is another story. While one researcher had taken an educated guess and gotten the bloodline wrong, others had copied their info and gotten their lines wrong too. And after having spent months and months researching Isaac's family, DNA proved that Isaac was NOT the father, as Maury would say.
On a side note, Isaac is actually related to me through a relatives marriage to my Hatcher line, so the research I ended up doing was not in vain at all, and I found some pretty cool relatives of Rhoda Bond in the process.
Rhoda had a relative who was scalped in a battle with Native Americans during Black Hawk's War, and was one of the bodies found the next day by Abraham Lincoln's unit. His name was James Bond, and I found him while researching Rhoda's tree. Just having a James Bond in the tree makes it worth the work.
Back to topic. Do your homework. Don't copy. And if you can use DNA to confirm where possible. 
By the way, if you read my earlier posts about Isaac and Rhoda's families and them being ancestors, I was wrong about them. #update.
Keep climbing trees and breaking through walls. The fruit is worth the labor.

Friday, January 12, 2018


John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield is your 19th great grandfather.
→ Pop 

your father → Mamie C. Nichols (Collins) 
his mother → Martha CALLIE Collins 
her mother → Nancy Rachel Bartlett (KING) 
her mother → Sarah Ann King (Bartlett) 
her mother → Reuben S. BARTLETT 
her father → John??? Garner Bartlett 
his father → WILLIAM BARTLETT 
his father → WILLIAM BERKLEY 
his father → Margaret Bartlett 
his mother → Margaret Brent 
her mother → Sir John Peshall, 1st Baronet 
her father → Thomas Pershall (Pearsall) (Persall) 
his father → Richard Pearshall 
his father → Catherine Harcourt 
his mother → Thomas Harcourt, Esq. 
her father → John Harcourt, Esq, of Ranton 
his father → Sir Thomas Harcourt, Knight 
his father → Maud de Grey 
his mother → John de Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Rotherfield 
her father → John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield 
his father

Friday, January 5, 2018


The Order of the Garter is the most senior and the oldest British Order of Chivalry and was founded by Edward III in 1348.

The Most Noble Order of the Garter is an order of chivalry founded by Edward III in 1348 and regarded as the most prestigious British order of chivalry (though in precedence inferior to the military Victoria Cross and George Cross) in England and the United Kingdom. It is dedicated to the image and arms of Saint George, England's patron saint.


following are some of the Knights of the Garter that are my ancestors. Stay tuned true believers.....

Tuesday, January 2, 2018

The many lives of Moses Linville

the many lives of moses linville
or the lives of the many moses linvilles... 
moses linville was not immortal exactly although he had many cousins with the same name... 
william moses linville was the son of david jr. and nancy ragsdale... he married elizabeth nelson and was born about 1827 in forsyth county nc.... he was the father of william alexander linville, columbus frank linville, and newton linville, among others.  
william was not the husband of elizabeth hester... 
elizabeth hester married moses linville b. 1829. 

my third great grandfather moses linville, b.1813, married henrietta white. he was the father of robert lee linville and berry linville. and he was not the husband of bethania hetty cook...  he was however the son of john and sarah busby linville and the grandson of moses linville and an unknown wife....   was he the moses linville who enlisted in 1861 in surry county nc? maybe.... 
moses son of richard was born about 1760 in nc and married elizabeth johnson... he moved his family west to tennessee and died in sparta, white county. he was the father of pleasant c linville and william m linville among others...   

 moses linville b.1829 in stokes county nc married elizabeth hester and was the father of william stephen linville 1852 and newton moses linville 1867 among others... william's death certificate lists his parents moses linville and elizabeth hester... this is not the moses linville born in 1700s.  this moses died in forsyth county nc 1913.... who were his parents??? benjamin fewell linville and mary holbrook or halbrook.... 

my fifth great grand moses linville 1752-1826 was the son of thomas and hannah. wife unknown but was not elizabeth hester. he was the father of john and brace and thomas and moses 1802 among others.... he died before the civil war but may have served in the revolution or the war of 1812... 

his son moses 1802 married bethania cook aka hetty. he was my fifth great uncle. he was the father of nephe, peter and franklin among others. their daughter bethania married an owens... he was probably the moses who enlisted in the war in surry county. there may have been more than one...  he died after 1880 census... 

newton moses linville 1867 1943 of forsyth county nc, was the son of moses linville and elizabeth hester. he married faithie ellen frazier....   he was father of 

Faitha Elizabeth Linville 
Samuel Oscar Linville 
Minnie Jane Long 
William Newton Linville 
Elvie Alice Crim

1791 moses linville married catherine crim. he was the son of david sr. and dorothy fair linville. he was born in nc but moved to indiana. he was the father of sarah c brown and moses jr. 1837.     

1837 was born in indiana and apparently never married he was drafted into the union army in the war and was still living with his mother in 1880 before his death in 97. it is unlikely that he ever went to nc so you can ignore the nc based hints for him...




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