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Monday, December 10, 2018
Monday, November 20, 2017
John's son Arch did not marry Polly... probably
JOHN NICHOLS' son ARCH did not marry POLLY UPDIKE.
How do i know?
First let me explain YDNA... Basically, it means that I have the same YDNA as my father and his father and his father and so on... And because of that i can say with a certain degree of confidence that i am descended from JOHN NICHOLS of Bedford County Virginia who married MARTHA J PAYNE because he and i have the same YDNA.
Now records show that my great grandfather JIMs father, EZEKIELs father, JOHN NICHOLS was born in Bedford, Va. in 1814. And my sources say that JOHN and MARTHA PAYNE NICHOLS had a son named ARCHIBALD who had a son named JOHN about that time. But since his son JOHN was born in 1814, he would have been the son of Archibald's wife JUDITH HATCHER who was still alive and married to him at the time.
Now Judith did not die until April 4, 1819, which means that she was still very much married in January of that year when MARY POLLY UPDIKE married in Bedford County to another Archibald Nichols. Although marriage records reported her husbands name was Archibald, the Op-Dyck Genealogy called him John.
But since Arch was married to Judith in January he most likely did not marry Polly,... probably. Also, Polly's son, John M Nichols who married Sarah Adeline Richardson in Bedford County would not be the son of Judith. Judith's son John married Martha Ann Jones in Bedford County and was still there in 1860 for the census. My research shows that the family that moved to WV was not related to JOHN who married MARTHA J PAYNE.
1860 CENSUS OF JOHN NICHOLS AND MARTHA JONES OF BEDFORD VA
WITH SON EZEKIEL IN THE HOUSE....
The Archibald Nichols who died in West Virginia in 1860 was born in Maryland but who was his wife? We know that this was not Archibald G Nichols who fought in the war in 1864 and married Martha Jane Basham.
Birth Place Maryland Death Date 27 Mar 1860
Death Place Blue Creek, Kanawha, West Virginia
DeatbAge 91 Occupation Farmer Marital Status Widowed
Gender Male Father Name Nicholds
FHL Film Number 460366 Wills and Probates Archibald Nicholds - 1860
U.S., Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol I–VI, 1607-1943
LINKS---
NICHOLS SURNAME PROJECT
http://www.brian-hamman.com/ResultsForNicholsSurnameProject.htm
DAR PROFILE
http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/?action=full&p_id=A083505
How do i know?
First let me explain YDNA... Basically, it means that I have the same YDNA as my father and his father and his father and so on... And because of that i can say with a certain degree of confidence that i am descended from JOHN NICHOLS of Bedford County Virginia who married MARTHA J PAYNE because he and i have the same YDNA.
Now records show that my great grandfather JIMs father, EZEKIELs father, JOHN NICHOLS was born in Bedford, Va. in 1814. And my sources say that JOHN and MARTHA PAYNE NICHOLS had a son named ARCHIBALD who had a son named JOHN about that time. But since his son JOHN was born in 1814, he would have been the son of Archibald's wife JUDITH HATCHER who was still alive and married to him at the time.
Now Judith did not die until April 4, 1819, which means that she was still very much married in January of that year when MARY POLLY UPDIKE married in Bedford County to another Archibald Nichols. Although marriage records reported her husbands name was Archibald, the Op-Dyck Genealogy called him John.
But since Arch was married to Judith in January he most likely did not marry Polly,... probably. Also, Polly's son, John M Nichols who married Sarah Adeline Richardson in Bedford County would not be the son of Judith. Judith's son John married Martha Ann Jones in Bedford County and was still there in 1860 for the census. My research shows that the family that moved to WV was not related to JOHN who married MARTHA J PAYNE.
1860 CENSUS OF JOHN NICHOLS AND MARTHA JONES OF BEDFORD VA
WITH SON EZEKIEL IN THE HOUSE....
| Name | Martha Nichols | ||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age | 32 | ||||||||||||||||
| Birth Year | abt 1828 | ||||||||||||||||
| Gender | Female | ||||||||||||||||
| Birth Place | Franklin Co | ||||||||||||||||
| Home in 1860 | South Western District, Franklin, Virginia | ||||||||||||||||
| Post Office | Long Branch | ||||||||||||||||
| Family Number | 63 | ||||||||||||||||
| Household Members |
|
The Archibald Nichols who died in West Virginia in 1860 was born in Maryland but who was his wife? We know that this was not Archibald G Nichols who fought in the war in 1864 and married Martha Jane Basham.
West Virginia, Deaths Index, 1853-1973
Name Archibald Nicholds Birth Date abt 1769Birth Place Maryland Death Date 27 Mar 1860
Death Place Blue Creek, Kanawha, West Virginia
DeatbAge 91 Occupation Farmer Marital Status Widowed
Gender Male Father Name Nicholds
FHL Film Number 460366 Wills and Probates Archibald Nicholds - 1860
Arch the Quaker was married in November 1779 probably to Sarah Woolington..... since polly updike was born about 1781 she prob did not marry Archibald the Quaker. Also. the Arch born in 1769 MD who died in West Virginia was about ten then so probably not the Quaker.
U.S., Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol I–VI, 1607-1943
| Name | Archibald Nichols |
|---|---|
| Marriage Date on Image | 25 Eleventh 1779 |
| Translated Marriage Date | 25 Nov 1779 |
| Marriage Place | Bedford |
| Volume | Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy Vol. VI |
LINKS---
NICHOLS SURNAME PROJECT
http://www.brian-hamman.com/ResultsForNicholsSurnameProject.htm
DAR PROFILE
http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/?action=full&p_id=A083505
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Friday, January 6, 2017
A LITTLE BEDFORD COUNTY HISTORY
After the revolution my ancestors, LT. JOHN NICHOLS and FLAIL PAYNE moved to Bedford from Maryland and started the next chapter in their lives. JOHN married Flayl's daughter MARTHA J PAYNE and had a few kids. Among them, ARCHIBALD G NICHOLS who married JUDITH HATCHER and had my ancestor, JOHN M NICHOLS around 1814. John married MARTHA ANN JONES in Franklin Co. in 1846.
John and Martha Jones had at least five kids, IRA, GEORGE, EZEKIEL, OCTAVIA JANE, and JAMES NICHOLS. GEORGE NICHOLS married MELINDA J YOUNG and ZEKE married HARRIET ISABELLE WILLIAMS.
ARCHIBALD NICHOLS and JUDITH HATCHER were also the parents of SALLIE S KASEY who married GEORGE S. KASEY, DANIEL W. NICHOLS who married POLLY BLACK, KETURAH NICHOLS who married PRESLEY BINER, BYER NICHOLS, JUDITH NICHOLS, LUCINDA HATCHER NICHOLS who married MORGAN MORRIS, BARTLETT NICHOLS who married MARY POLLY RICHARDSON, and MARTHA J NICHOLS who married STEPHEN MORRIS,
MARTHA PAYNE NICHOLS had eight children....
ELISHA, FLAYL, JOHN P NICHOLS, JANE NICHOLS HANCOCK, MOLLY NICHOLS CUNDIFF, ARCH, JESSE, and CATHERINE NICHOLS POLLARD.
CATHERINE married JOHN POLLARD, FLAYL married NANCY ANN HATCHER, JOHN married SARAH PAYNE, JANE married EDWARD HANCOCK, MOLLY married BENJAMIN CUNDIFF, ARCH married MARY POLLY UPDIKE in 1819 after the death of JUDITH, JESSE married SARAH FIELDS, and ELISHA married NANCY PAYNE.
MARTHA PAYNE NICHOLS had eight children....
ELISHA, FLAYL, JOHN P NICHOLS, JANE NICHOLS HANCOCK, MOLLY NICHOLS CUNDIFF, ARCH, JESSE, and CATHERINE NICHOLS POLLARD.
CATHERINE married JOHN POLLARD, FLAYL married NANCY ANN HATCHER, JOHN married SARAH PAYNE, JANE married EDWARD HANCOCK, MOLLY married BENJAMIN CUNDIFF, ARCH married MARY POLLY UPDIKE in 1819 after the death of JUDITH, JESSE married SARAH FIELDS, and ELISHA married NANCY PAYNE.
Friday, October 7, 2016
FLAYLE PAYNE OF FREDERICK COUNTY
Western Maryland Genealogy, "Flayle Payne of Frederick County" by Geo. Ely Russell, CG, FASG, FNGS. 1988.
"Martha Payne, daughter of Flayle Payne, married John Nichols of Frederick County, MD, probably in the 1750s. In 1757 or 1758 Sgt. John Nichols was credited for six days service in Capt. Moses Champlaine's Company during the French and Indian Wars. In March 1776 Lt. John Nichols was among the men who subscribed to and enrolled in Capt. Henry Boteler's Company of Frederick County Militia.Other enrollees were Sgts. Archibald and William Nicholls (sic), Flail Payne (sic), Barton Philpott, and John and Barton Garrett were among the men who took the Oath of Fidelity and Support in Frederick County."
Friday, September 30, 2016
A BIOGRAPHY OF FLAYLE PAYNE, SR.
PAYNE, Flayle Payne Sr. (1696-1764) Biography
https://familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/2344071
BIOGRAPHY OF FLAYLE PAYNE
MY 6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER THROUGH HIS DAUGHTER MARTHA NICHOLS.
PAYNE, Flayle Payne Sr. (1696-1764) Biography
Flayle Payne was Christened 29 Nov. 1696, St. Mary Magdalene Anglican Church, Old Fish St. in London England. His parents were Thomas and Elizabeth Payne.
Thomas Payne was listed as a Clothworker in the 1695 census of London. The Clothworker's union were a powerful organization that played a big part in the government of London. King James was an honorary member of the Clothworkers. Thomas and Elizabeth Payne had three sons and a daughter, all Christened in St. Mary Magdalene Anglican Church in London.
Mary was Christened on Mar. 10, 1693
Flayle was Christened on Nov. 29, 1696.
John was Christened on Oct. 27, 1702.
Thomas was Christened on Oct. 1, 1704.
Flayle Payne first appeared on record in America as a witness in a Prince George's Co. Maryland court in August 1727. In Nov. 1730, Flayle Payne was listed on a list of settlers in the Monocacy Valley of western Maryland. Also, in 1730, Flayle was listed as an Indian Scout in Prince George's Co. In July 1731, the Maryland Assembly rewarded Flayle Payne for returning a runaway slave from beyond the Monocacy. In 1734, 1736, and 1737 Flayle was paid a small bounty for bringing squirrel heads in to Prince George's County.
In Nov. 1738, Flayle was appointed overseer of the road built between Monocacy and Antietam. In Nov. 1740, Flayle was appointed Constable of Monocacy Lower Hundred.
The English Church was established in Maryland in 1692, and in 1742, Frail Pain (Flayle Payne) was among the inhabitants, of Senaca and Monocacy Hundreds, who signed a petition to divide Prince George's Parish and establish All Saints Parish. However, Flayle's name never appeared on any church records.
In 1744, Flayle Payne, and son, Thomas, signed a petition for a bridge to be laid out at the mouth of Catoctin Creek and a main road to be laid out from Tuscarora Creek to the mouth of Catoctin and from thence to Antietam Creek in present day Washington County.
In 1748 Frederick Co. was formed from the western part of Prince George's Co. In a Nov. 1750 court, Flayle Payne and Flayle Payne Jr. were among the gentlemen appointed overseer of the River road and Richard Touchstone's Road.
Will of Flayll Payn dated October 1764
He devised "Payn's Industry" to son Thomas, the upper part of "Payn's Delight" to son John, and the lower part to sons Flayll and Peter, equally. He bequeathed one-third of his moveables to son Flayl, and the balance of the moveables to be divided between Peter and John Best. He bequeathed one shilling sterling to daughter Martha Nichols.
In the above will, no wife was named. We think that John Best was married to a deceased daughter of Flayle. Flayle's land, " Payne's Delight" was located approximately where the present day town of Knoxville Maryland is today, near the Potomac River. "Payne's Industry" was located in the vicinity of the present day towns of Weaverton and Sandy Hook.
Of Flayle's children, Thomas died shortly after his father. Some of his descendants migrated to Bedford Co. Virginia during a period from 1773 to 1779.
Frederick Lee Payne, now deceased, from Cincinnati Ohio, descends from Thomas. Fred's lineage is Flayle Payne, Thomas Payne, Flayle Payne, who migrated to Bedford Co. Va., Flayle Pollard Payne, of Bedford Co. and Giles Co. Va. Thomas Payne, Fred Pollard Payne, and Frederick Lee Payne. I have a DNA match with Frederick Lee Payne.
Norman L. Payne author of " Payne and Associated Families of Breckinridge County Kentucky" descends from Thomas Payne, but, for some reason, his DNA does not match others in the Flayle Payne line, maybe an adoption?
John Payne, son of Flayle, from whom I, Billy Payne descends, sold his portion of "Payne's Delight" in 1773, and along with wife, Mary, purchased 112 acres of land in south Bedford Co. Va., near Huddleston Va. in 1774. It states "John Payne late of the Province of Maryland" The land was located on the branches of Rock Castle Creek. He later purchased 120 acres of land on nearby Goose Creek. In 1781 John Payne was credited with providing one beef for the Revolutionary cause and was declared a Patriot. I, Billy Payne, have a DNA match with Thomas Chester Payne of Bedford co. Va.
His family lived on a portion of the land that John and Mary Payne purchased in 1774. The above John Payne died in Bedford co. in 1798, leaving a will naming wife, Mary, sons John, Thomas, and William, and daughters Catherine Kennett, Sarah Brown, and Margery Harper.
Flayle Payne Jr., son of Flayle, operated a ferry that crossed the Potomac between Maryland and Virginia in the 1760's. He was also a private in the American Revolution. He, accompanied by Patrick Lynch, moved to Bedford Co. Va., in 1779, and settled within a mile of his brother, John.
Flayle Payne Jr. died in Bedford Co. in 1783, leaving a will naming sons, Thomas and William, and daughters Martha and Nancy. Peter Payne, son of Flayle, and wife, Elizabeth, by deed dated 27 April 1772, sold his lower half of "Payne's Delight" to his brother, Flayle Payne Jr. of Frederick Co.
In 1766, Peter Payne, with other Planters of Frederick Co., signed a petition to the Council of Maryland requesting greater assurance of bills of credit. The will of Peter Payne was dated Nov. 1777, and probated 23 June 1778.
Clay Gullatt added this on 23 Jul 2011
joycepjohnson originally submitted this to Powell Family Tree on Ancestry.com 8 Jan 2011
https://familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/2344071
BIOGRAPHY OF FLAYLE PAYNE
MY 6TH GREAT GRANDFATHER THROUGH HIS DAUGHTER MARTHA NICHOLS.
PAYNE, Flayle Payne Sr. (1696-1764) Biography
Flayle Payne was Christened 29 Nov. 1696, St. Mary Magdalene Anglican Church, Old Fish St. in London England. His parents were Thomas and Elizabeth Payne.
Thomas Payne was listed as a Clothworker in the 1695 census of London. The Clothworker's union were a powerful organization that played a big part in the government of London. King James was an honorary member of the Clothworkers. Thomas and Elizabeth Payne had three sons and a daughter, all Christened in St. Mary Magdalene Anglican Church in London.
Mary was Christened on Mar. 10, 1693
Flayle was Christened on Nov. 29, 1696.
John was Christened on Oct. 27, 1702.
Thomas was Christened on Oct. 1, 1704.
Flayle Payne first appeared on record in America as a witness in a Prince George's Co. Maryland court in August 1727. In Nov. 1730, Flayle Payne was listed on a list of settlers in the Monocacy Valley of western Maryland. Also, in 1730, Flayle was listed as an Indian Scout in Prince George's Co. In July 1731, the Maryland Assembly rewarded Flayle Payne for returning a runaway slave from beyond the Monocacy. In 1734, 1736, and 1737 Flayle was paid a small bounty for bringing squirrel heads in to Prince George's County.
In Nov. 1738, Flayle was appointed overseer of the road built between Monocacy and Antietam. In Nov. 1740, Flayle was appointed Constable of Monocacy Lower Hundred.
The English Church was established in Maryland in 1692, and in 1742, Frail Pain (Flayle Payne) was among the inhabitants, of Senaca and Monocacy Hundreds, who signed a petition to divide Prince George's Parish and establish All Saints Parish. However, Flayle's name never appeared on any church records.
In 1744, Flayle Payne, and son, Thomas, signed a petition for a bridge to be laid out at the mouth of Catoctin Creek and a main road to be laid out from Tuscarora Creek to the mouth of Catoctin and from thence to Antietam Creek in present day Washington County.
In 1748 Frederick Co. was formed from the western part of Prince George's Co. In a Nov. 1750 court, Flayle Payne and Flayle Payne Jr. were among the gentlemen appointed overseer of the River road and Richard Touchstone's Road.
Will of Flayll Payn dated October 1764
He devised "Payn's Industry" to son Thomas, the upper part of "Payn's Delight" to son John, and the lower part to sons Flayll and Peter, equally. He bequeathed one-third of his moveables to son Flayl, and the balance of the moveables to be divided between Peter and John Best. He bequeathed one shilling sterling to daughter Martha Nichols.
In the above will, no wife was named. We think that John Best was married to a deceased daughter of Flayle. Flayle's land, " Payne's Delight" was located approximately where the present day town of Knoxville Maryland is today, near the Potomac River. "Payne's Industry" was located in the vicinity of the present day towns of Weaverton and Sandy Hook.
Of Flayle's children, Thomas died shortly after his father. Some of his descendants migrated to Bedford Co. Virginia during a period from 1773 to 1779.
Frederick Lee Payne, now deceased, from Cincinnati Ohio, descends from Thomas. Fred's lineage is Flayle Payne, Thomas Payne, Flayle Payne, who migrated to Bedford Co. Va., Flayle Pollard Payne, of Bedford Co. and Giles Co. Va. Thomas Payne, Fred Pollard Payne, and Frederick Lee Payne. I have a DNA match with Frederick Lee Payne.
Norman L. Payne author of " Payne and Associated Families of Breckinridge County Kentucky" descends from Thomas Payne, but, for some reason, his DNA does not match others in the Flayle Payne line, maybe an adoption?
John Payne, son of Flayle, from whom I, Billy Payne descends, sold his portion of "Payne's Delight" in 1773, and along with wife, Mary, purchased 112 acres of land in south Bedford Co. Va., near Huddleston Va. in 1774. It states "John Payne late of the Province of Maryland" The land was located on the branches of Rock Castle Creek. He later purchased 120 acres of land on nearby Goose Creek. In 1781 John Payne was credited with providing one beef for the Revolutionary cause and was declared a Patriot. I, Billy Payne, have a DNA match with Thomas Chester Payne of Bedford co. Va.
His family lived on a portion of the land that John and Mary Payne purchased in 1774. The above John Payne died in Bedford co. in 1798, leaving a will naming wife, Mary, sons John, Thomas, and William, and daughters Catherine Kennett, Sarah Brown, and Margery Harper.
Flayle Payne Jr., son of Flayle, operated a ferry that crossed the Potomac between Maryland and Virginia in the 1760's. He was also a private in the American Revolution. He, accompanied by Patrick Lynch, moved to Bedford Co. Va., in 1779, and settled within a mile of his brother, John.
Flayle Payne Jr. died in Bedford Co. in 1783, leaving a will naming sons, Thomas and William, and daughters Martha and Nancy. Peter Payne, son of Flayle, and wife, Elizabeth, by deed dated 27 April 1772, sold his lower half of "Payne's Delight" to his brother, Flayle Payne Jr. of Frederick Co.
In 1766, Peter Payne, with other Planters of Frederick Co., signed a petition to the Council of Maryland requesting greater assurance of bills of credit. The will of Peter Payne was dated Nov. 1777, and probated 23 June 1778.
Clay Gullatt added this on 23 Jul 2011
joycepjohnson originally submitted this to Powell Family Tree on Ancestry.com 8 Jan 2011
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quotes
review
sarah beckelheimer
tags
ydna