A correction pops up now and then when you research your family tree. In the case of Brice Edwards who married Jane Rakes, turns out he is not the son of Ambrose and Olive Martin Edwards, but is most likely the son of Isham Edwards. This makes Isham my ancestor and Ambrose, a distant cousin. While both are apparently descended from a common ancestor, only Isham appears to be my ancestor maternal.
These things happen, and family history is never really done. You have to thoroughly research each case and keep an eye out for changes.
The Brice Edwards who was the son of Ambrose and Olive married Martha Barksdale, was born in Albemarle County, and was a Major in the militia. His son John Ambrose Barksdale Edwards was born in Albemarle County and married Elizabeth James.
The Brice who married Jane Rakes was a Captain and was born in Patrick County. His daughter Elizabeth married Peter Simon Hancock.
See the difference. Dont just copy others trees, do the homework.
Keep climbing.
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Showing posts with label RAKES. Show all posts
Showing posts with label RAKES. Show all posts
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ELIZABETH EDWARDS HANCOCK, 3XGG
When Elizabeth 3X Edwards was born in 1818 in Franklin, Virginia, her father, BRICE EDWARDS, was 42, and her mother, JANE RAKES, was 37. She married PETER SIMON 3X HANCOCK on December 24, 1839, in Patrick County, Virginia. They had 13 children in 23 years. She died on December 14, 1894, in Floyd, Virginia, having lived a long life of 76 years, and was buried in Floyd, Virginia.
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Floyd County, Virginia Deaths, 1883-96
| Given Name | Elizabeth |
|---|---|
| Surname | Hancock |
| Race | W |
| Sex | F |
| Death Date | 14 Dec 1894 |
| Cause of Death | heart disease |
| Age | 78 |
| Parents | Brice & Virginia Edwards |
| Place of Birth | Floyd Co., VA |
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Tuesday, February 18, 2014
"Indian Jane" Hubbard, Cherokee #52ancestors
This #52ancestors challenge post is about my 5th great grandmother "Indian Jane"...
--Records for Charles Rakes Sr. pulled from Patrick Co. Va.--
There is a lot of confusion between "Indian Jane", Jane Hubbard, Nancy Hubbard, Nancy Jane Hubbard, and Nancy Jane "Indian Jane" Hubbard as being of the same person.
Charles Rakes 2nd wife: "Nancy Hubbard", which "no records" of any children. He married her at age 76, which not impossible, doubtful of any children.
Her parents were Joseph Hubbard and Ann Crews.
Ann Crews parents were Hardy Crews and Phoebe Doochie/Goochie.
Many publications for Hardy and phoebe, Hardy from Ireland was a land surveyor.
As a record account goes: he chose a beautiful dark-haired Cherokee maiden, named Phoebe Doochie/Goochie.
Phoebe is full blooded Cherokee Indian, of what is now the Smoky mountains area and Cherokee Indian reservation.(This was prior to the building of the fort(Prior to dawes roles)). Early to mid 1700's.
Reports indicate: Cherokee recognize Hardy/Phoebe of pure blood of having both land and rights. Joseph who married their daughter Ann Crews, she would be 1/2 blood Cherokee, which was entitled to NO land, but given all other Cherokee rights.
Joseph was well known by the Cherokee as "good friend", often stopped by on their way to trading.
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Charles Rakes Sr 1st wife: Indian Jane has "NO" last name, but had 12 children 11 female 1 male. Records indicate born abt 1740.
Anna,Constant,Jane,Mary Bashie,Sarah,Rhoda,Dorcas,Elizabeth, 3 unknown females,and Samuel Jackson Rakes b.1790. All from Patrick Co. Va.
This is the direct line of Rakes that goes into Winfrey. Charles Rakes Sr daughter:Dorcos Rakes married: Richard R.Winfrey.
As per stories, and publications: Indian Jane's full blooded Cherokee parents were killed during a raid,(sometime after the fort was built and before the trail of tears.)
This left her an orphan baby, which was raised by Joseph Hubbard, he named Jane "Indian Jane" (No records, many different publications).
"This would be the early 1740's which records would be very hard to find if even recorded."
++This is probably where the confusion is about calling her Jane Hubbard....
The marriage to Charles Rakes Sr is also not recorded. All Rakes from Charles Rakes Sr. 1740 to 2012, are directly from "Indian Jane" Which for legal purposes on a marriage certificate would be Jane Hubbard, if the record even exists.
Indian Jane being of full blooded Cherokee Indian.
(Would like to find records of blood parents.)
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?elizabeth::hubbard::5999.html
--Records for Charles Rakes Sr. pulled from Patrick Co. Va.--
There is a lot of confusion between "Indian Jane", Jane Hubbard, Nancy Hubbard, Nancy Jane Hubbard, and Nancy Jane "Indian Jane" Hubbard as being of the same person.
Charles Rakes 2nd wife: "Nancy Hubbard", which "no records" of any children. He married her at age 76, which not impossible, doubtful of any children.
Her parents were Joseph Hubbard and Ann Crews.
Ann Crews parents were Hardy Crews and Phoebe Doochie/Goochie.
Many publications for Hardy and phoebe, Hardy from Ireland was a land surveyor.
As a record account goes: he chose a beautiful dark-haired Cherokee maiden, named Phoebe Doochie/Goochie.
Phoebe is full blooded Cherokee Indian, of what is now the Smoky mountains area and Cherokee Indian reservation.(This was prior to the building of the fort(Prior to dawes roles)). Early to mid 1700's.
Reports indicate: Cherokee recognize Hardy/Phoebe of pure blood of having both land and rights. Joseph who married their daughter Ann Crews, she would be 1/2 blood Cherokee, which was entitled to NO land, but given all other Cherokee rights.
Joseph was well known by the Cherokee as "good friend", often stopped by on their way to trading.
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Charles Rakes Sr 1st wife: Indian Jane has "NO" last name, but had 12 children 11 female 1 male. Records indicate born abt 1740.
Anna,Constant,Jane,Mary Bashie,Sarah,Rhoda,Dorcas,Elizabeth, 3 unknown females,and Samuel Jackson Rakes b.1790. All from Patrick Co. Va.
This is the direct line of Rakes that goes into Winfrey. Charles Rakes Sr daughter:Dorcos Rakes married: Richard R.Winfrey.
As per stories, and publications: Indian Jane's full blooded Cherokee parents were killed during a raid,(sometime after the fort was built and before the trail of tears.)
This left her an orphan baby, which was raised by Joseph Hubbard, he named Jane "Indian Jane" (No records, many different publications).
"This would be the early 1740's which records would be very hard to find if even recorded."
++This is probably where the confusion is about calling her Jane Hubbard....
The marriage to Charles Rakes Sr is also not recorded. All Rakes from Charles Rakes Sr. 1740 to 2012, are directly from "Indian Jane" Which for legal purposes on a marriage certificate would be Jane Hubbard, if the record even exists.
Indian Jane being of full blooded Cherokee Indian.
(Would like to find records of blood parents.)
http://genforum.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/pageload.cgi?elizabeth::hubbard::5999.html
Sunday, January 26, 2014
Childern of John and Elizabeth Witt Hancock #SundaySource
1b) John Hancock and Elizabeth Witt's children
1b1)Charles married 14 Jan 1830 Nancy A Koger in Patrick County
1b2)Greenville Lewis married 7 April 1839 ( ditto with the month and
day)Elizabeth Stegall in Patrick Co
1b3)Benjamin F married 13 Jan 1840 Lucy Harris in Patrick County
1b4)Martha married Joseph Edwards 4 Dec 1840 ( same with the day and
month) in Patrick County
1b5)John Witt Hancock married Jane Edwards ( daughter of Brice and Jane
Edwards) 14 Oct 1841 in Patrick County, VA
1b6) Peter G Hancock ( born 1820) married Betsy Edwards ( daughter of
Brice and Jane Edwards) 25 Dec 1839 died around 1891 served in CSA
1b2)Greenville Lewis married 7 April 1839 ( ditto with the month and
day)Elizabeth Stegall in Patrick Co
1b3)Benjamin F married 13 Jan 1840 Lucy Harris in Patrick County
1b4)Martha married Joseph Edwards 4 Dec 1840 ( same with the day and
month) in Patrick County
1b5)John Witt Hancock married Jane Edwards ( daughter of Brice and Jane
Edwards) 14 Oct 1841 in Patrick County, VA
1b6) Peter G Hancock ( born 1820) married Betsy Edwards ( daughter of
Brice and Jane Edwards) 25 Dec 1839 died around 1891 served in CSA
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